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	<title>Comments on: Bicycle Mapping</title>
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		<title>By: Melanie Meyers</title>
		<link>http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/bicycle-mapping/comment-page-1/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Meyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Camilla,

That is a great point about bicycles being vehicles for alternative mapping activities like the ones you list.  One certainly experiences place differently on a bicycle than one does in a car or by foot, which can lead to different interpretations of space and place on a map.  Thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Camilla,</p>
<p>That is a great point about bicycles being vehicles for alternative mapping activities like the ones you list.  One certainly experiences place differently on a bicycle than one does in a car or by foot, which can lead to different interpretations of space and place on a map.  Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Camilla</title>
		<link>http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/bicycle-mapping/comment-page-1/#comment-850</link>
		<dc:creator>Camilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bicycles also offer a way to begin some of the more interesting kinds of mapping activities; psychogeography, exploration, recording your experience of your physical and social space in more subjective ways. On a bike, you can follow your nose, as on foot, but also get about fairly quickly.

I love maps and bikes too. Great link to the nolacycle bike map project, its really interesting :) Might steal and modify the idea for use with kids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bicycles also offer a way to begin some of the more interesting kinds of mapping activities; psychogeography, exploration, recording your experience of your physical and social space in more subjective ways. On a bike, you can follow your nose, as on foot, but also get about fairly quickly.</p>
<p>I love maps and bikes too. Great link to the nolacycle bike map project, its really interesting <img src='http://www.utilitycycling.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Might steal and modify the idea for use with kids!</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Meyers</title>
		<link>http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/bicycle-mapping/comment-page-1/#comment-772</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Meyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 20:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Scott,
The NolaCycle Bike Map Project looks really interesting!  The map looks like it would be helpful for a cyclist navigating the area, especially with the streets that stick out as poor quality and which should be avoided.  I also like how you have included the general traffic speed.  I&#039;m interested to hear more about the mapping methods using crayons and clipboards.  Do you have a post on your blog about it?  Thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scott,<br />
The NolaCycle Bike Map Project looks really interesting!  The map looks like it would be helpful for a cyclist navigating the area, especially with the streets that stick out as poor quality and which should be avoided.  I also like how you have included the general traffic speed.  I&#8217;m interested to hear more about the mapping methods using crayons and clipboards.  Do you have a post on your blog about it?  Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/bicycle-mapping/comment-page-1/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 20:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you may be interested in this map of new orleans, which was mapped by cyclists, for cyclists, using clipboards and crayons and a subjective scale of road quality. 
http://nolacycle.noladata.org

over 100 volunteers helped make the map, and now we are building a network of suggested routes.  our goal is a printed map. 
http://www.nolacycle.com

the difference between new orleans and many cities, beyond  the simple lack of facilities, is the subsidence of the ground beneath us, which causes pavement to rapidly degrade, both chronically and after heavy rain events.  

On the plus side, the topography is very flat, and the street grid is compact and interconnected, with many narrow streets (designed for horse carriages).  Mapping the street grid for road quality and speed of car traffic is therefore useful for determining  which side streets are smooth enough for introductory cyclists, or introductory new orleanians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you may be interested in this map of new orleans, which was mapped by cyclists, for cyclists, using clipboards and crayons and a subjective scale of road quality.<br />
<a href="http://nolacycle.noladata.org" rel="nofollow">http://nolacycle.noladata.org</a></p>
<p>over 100 volunteers helped make the map, and now we are building a network of suggested routes.  our goal is a printed map.<br />
<a href="http://www.nolacycle.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nolacycle.com</a></p>
<p>the difference between new orleans and many cities, beyond  the simple lack of facilities, is the subsidence of the ground beneath us, which causes pavement to rapidly degrade, both chronically and after heavy rain events.  </p>
<p>On the plus side, the topography is very flat, and the street grid is compact and interconnected, with many narrow streets (designed for horse carriages).  Mapping the street grid for road quality and speed of car traffic is therefore useful for determining  which side streets are smooth enough for introductory cyclists, or introductory new orleanians.</p>
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		<title>By: fridaycyclotouriste</title>
		<link>http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/bicycle-mapping/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>fridaycyclotouriste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Melanie...let me know what you have in mind. You can reach me via the contact page on my site....Keep up the good work!...Nathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Melanie&#8230;let me know what you have in mind. You can reach me via the contact page on my site&#8230;.Keep up the good work!&#8230;Nathan</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Meyers</title>
		<link>http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/bicycle-mapping/comment-page-1/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Meyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nathan,

Thanks for the comment.  Your site looks really interesting too!  Would you be interested in collaborating on a future bicycle mapping post with us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nathan,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.  Your site looks really interesting too!  Would you be interested in collaborating on a future bicycle mapping post with us?</p>
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		<title>By: fridaycyclotouriste</title>
		<link>http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/bicycle-mapping/comment-page-1/#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>fridaycyclotouriste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 05:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great site!! I love maps and bikes and gps too and although my techniques are quite rudimentary I&#039;ve enjoyed playing around with some of these things on my blog:

www.thefridaycyclotouriste.com

-nathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great site!! I love maps and bikes and gps too and although my techniques are quite rudimentary I&#8217;ve enjoyed playing around with some of these things on my blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefridaycyclotouriste.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefridaycyclotouriste.com</a></p>
<p>-nathan</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Meyers</title>
		<link>http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/bicycle-mapping/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Meyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ross,

Thanks for the comment.  Sure, it would be great to have a bicycle interstate system like the one you describe.  However, collecting such a system via GPS might be a waste of time, as most, if not all, of that data has already been collected.  The important thing, however, is to find out which roads are suitable for cycling and which ones are not so great.  

To that end, &lt;a href=&quot;http://googlemapsbikethere.org/2009/10/13/50000-signatures-and-a-big-google-announcement/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google has just announced that they will soon be providing bicycle directions in a &quot;Bike-There&quot; function on Google Maps&lt;/a&gt;.  This is great news, as Google has an immense amount of data already at their disposal, so it is mainly a matter of adding information about route suitability for cycling.  

As for cartography, that is the art and science of making maps, so it&#039;s slightly different from collecting data via GPS, though the two are quite closely related.

Thanks again for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ross,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.  Sure, it would be great to have a bicycle interstate system like the one you describe.  However, collecting such a system via GPS might be a waste of time, as most, if not all, of that data has already been collected.  The important thing, however, is to find out which roads are suitable for cycling and which ones are not so great.  </p>
<p>To that end, <a href="http://googlemapsbikethere.org/2009/10/13/50000-signatures-and-a-big-google-announcement/" rel="nofollow">Google has just announced that they will soon be providing bicycle directions in a &#8220;Bike-There&#8221; function on Google Maps</a>.  This is great news, as Google has an immense amount of data already at their disposal, so it is mainly a matter of adding information about route suitability for cycling.  </p>
<p>As for cartography, that is the art and science of making maps, so it&#8217;s slightly different from collecting data via GPS, though the two are quite closely related.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Nicholson</title>
		<link>http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/bicycle-mapping/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bicycle interstate system of low traffic, flat roads and routes suitable for cycling, could be entirely electronic and available via GPS.  Cartography, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bicycle interstate system of low traffic, flat roads and routes suitable for cycling, could be entirely electronic and available via GPS.  Cartography, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Meyers</title>
		<link>http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/bicycle-mapping/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Meyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open Street Maps looks like a great concept, but it&#039;s useful to know what some of it&#039;s faults are to someone who has used it.  Indeed, knowing elevation profiles is very nice, as I definitely prefer to avoid hills when I have a lot of weight on my bike.  

Here is a video post on OSM too: http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/open-street-map/

Thanks for the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open Street Maps looks like a great concept, but it&#8217;s useful to know what some of it&#8217;s faults are to someone who has used it.  Indeed, knowing elevation profiles is very nice, as I definitely prefer to avoid hills when I have a lot of weight on my bike.  </p>
<p>Here is a video post on OSM too: <a href="http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/open-street-map/" rel="nofollow">http://www.utilitycycling.org/2009/08/open-street-map/</a></p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
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